Freddie Lounds interviewt Bryan Fuller:
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Sink Your Teeth In: Bryan Fuller Tattles about the Tooth Fairy and More!
BY FREDDIE LOUNDS – POSTED ON MAY 24, 2015
POSTED IN: CHESAPEAKE RIPPER, FREDERICK CHILTON, INTERVIEWS, TATTLE CRIME EXCLUSIVES, THE TOOTH FAIRY
Tattlers I am SO pleased to have had an opportunity to speak with Bryan Fuller via conference call, and he was kind enough to let this redheaded reporter ask ALMOST everything she wanted. This is not the complete interview – there will be a follow up in the next few weeks, since Mr. Fuller has requested that I hold my tongue about certain things for a bit – so stay tuned for that!
Before we start I just want to emphasize just how much Bryan adores the Fannibals – we must have spoken about the Fandom and the massive amount of talent and dedication the Fannibals have for twenty minutes, and he simply raved about everyone and the level of interaction. I can’t thank him enough for the time he’s given me, and I hope all of you are really going to enjoy all the surprises to come in Season 3.
This is NOT spoiler free, so turn back now if you don’t want to be spoiled!
Bryan Fox
FREDDIE: Richard Armitage is an amazing actor and he’s definitely a very, very anticipated part of the season: What brought you to his casting choice?
BRYAN: I’d been a fan of Richard’s for a while and have many mutual friends, but I’d never met him, but I knew his representatives very closely and had talked to them the year before about how it would be great to get him on the show because I think he’s so wonderful and would understand the heightened, bizarre tone of the stories that we’re telling and be able to access them emotionally, which any great, trained actor is able to do. It kinda reminded me of working on Star Trek because we always tried to cast experienced, trained actors for the aliens because they were able to have that broad declaration of a style with the language because it was always in some heightened form because it was alien – Klingons have a very specific kind of grandiosity – so to have somebody who can provide authenticity to the extremes is a vital component when we cast.
I’d been talking to Lee Pace, actually, about playing the role of the Red Dragon, because Lee and I go way back, and he was very interested in doing so, so I was always thinking Lee was going to do it, and I was poking pins in the “Halt and Catch Fire” voodoo doll hoping that he would be available, but that show came back – which I’m very happy ultimately that it did for everyone involved in it – but I was also shaking my fist at the same time because I wanted to work with Lee again on the show, but once Lee was unavailable I knew exactly who I was going to go to. I’d been talking to Richard’s reps about him doing the show and if he would be interested and they were always very encouraging, so I got on the phone with Richard. He’s such a thoughtful actor and an interesting man, he has so much respect for all facets of storytelling and really honors and respects his craft, so the conversations were fantastic about his interpretation of Francis, and he actually sent me several of his journals which detailed how he was approaching the character, he was so well read and articulate in terms of his approach of Francis Dolarhyde that I felt safe with the role in his hands, so he came aboard and won everyone over. He was such a wonderful breath of fresh air for the series, because he’s essentially a regular in the last six episodes of this season, he’s in every episode and has as much to do as Will Graham and Hannibal Lecter, so it’s very much the thrumble of these three crazy guys in the last six episodes.
I can’t speak enough on the subject about how adored this man was on the crew, and he’s playing a scary guy, the crew was always really amused at how dedicated and intense he was and then how approachable he was after scenes were completed. He’s somebody who takes his work very seriously and it was just a joy to work with him, I really loved it, it was a wonderful collaboration.
FREDDIE: Dolarhyde’s tattoo looks incredible – can you tell us a bit about the process of designing it and applying it?
BRYAN: We had this wonderful tattoo artist in Los Angeles design the tattoo based on the painting, and it’s pretty cool. It looks great on him, and Richard is a fine physical specimen, so it was a beautiful canvas for that piece. It’s interesting because you print it out and we have to digitally remove seams and do a little bit of cleanup in post on it because with a tattoo that massive you can’t help but see how it’s connected together.
FREDDIE: I noticed that Dolarhyde’s kimono seems to be Blake inspired as well.
BRYAN: Yes, we wanted it to look like he was shedding insect layers, there’s almost this Alexander McQueen inspired dragonfly scaling around the kimono, and it’s a gorgeous fabric that we printed the design on, it lights up when it’s backlit, it’s gorgeous. I actually called wardrobe and said “I need to keep Dolarhyde’s kimono.”
FREDDIE: Do you think people will find Dolarhyde repellant and horrifying or do you think they’ll find sympathy for him given his upbringing and the other challenges he’s faced?
BRYAN: I think it is fascinating because he is a killer of families, yet we don’t meet him that way, we meet him as a man who is clearly struggling with his sanity and his isolation who then finds some sort of connection to humanity, and you want it to take hold, you want him to reform and redeem himself. His is a tragic story.
One of the things that I was really excited about this arc was just telling that tragic romance between Francis and Reba, both of them are just so wonderful. Rutina Wesley is a completely different character than on True Blood and you really get to see what a wonderful actress she is and how broad her talent is. There were times that we were sitting in the editing room going over a scene and both the editor and I had to wipe a tear out of the corner of our eyes because you’re rooting for this man to find some peace because he is so tortured, and yes, he is a terrible killer of families but Richard imbues him with great power and also tremendous vulnerability and it’s incredibly appealing.
FREDDIE: I’m really excited for Rutina, excited for her as an actress and excited for another woman of color to join the cast, which is absolutely fantastic.
BRYAN: Absolutely!
FREDDIE: I’ve always viewed Reba as the “Woman Clothed in the Sun” to Francis’ “Great Red Dragon”, I’ve always seen them as having this beautiful kind of balance, that she definitely affects his “Becoming” because I feel like, and maybe you can confirm this, that there’s this torturous agony for Francis, this struggle between his human side and the Dragon, and Reba really cements that human side of him.
BRYAN: Oh yes, absolutely, she represents humanity, and there’s something about the mythology of that particular painting because the Woman Clothed in the Sun is the bearer of new life and the bearer of opportunity, so the Red Dragon in the mythology of Revelations is there to destroy her because she could change everything, and there he is standing over her and there’s hesitation because he sees what she could be bearing and how she could change the world and himself by just allowing her to give birth to that light and that new hope, and that is absolutely the struggle of their relationship, he sees her as something that threatens the Dragon but could liberate himself.
FREDDIE: What kind of challenges did Reba, as a blind character, present in casting regarding authenticity and representation?
BRYAN: You want to be able to be authentic in the role and in the casting, but you also have to make sure that whoever you cast is going to interpret the character as you see them, so we did do an initial search for blind actresses but there wasn’t anyone who was leaping out at us. So I called up Grace Wu, who’s the head of casting at NBC, and asked her “Who are you excited about? I’m open to whoever, I’m open to a great actress.” and she said “What do you think about Rutina Wesley?” and I was like “Done. I love her. Let’s cast her.” We called Rutina to see if she was interested, and I got on the phone with Rutina and talked with her about the role, and she’s yet another favorite person who came in and was such a delight and brought a different energy to the show which is what we look at with all of the guest cast, we want them to bring in a different flavor. Reba is such a huge emotional tent pole for the story we’re telling, and Rutina came in knowing this person had to have some inner light that drew Dolarhyde to her and you really see that in her performance.
FREDDIE: Confirm it for me – the Marlows were Dolarhyde’s first kill, right?
BRYAN: The answer is yes, but we don’t explore it – that was absolutely the intention of that first episode, but because of where we were with our characters and the very unique dynamics to this series: There are expansions on Will Graham’s story and Hannibal’s story and Jack Crawford’s approach into this world, the dynamics of what is happening in the asylum, in the present, all kind of elbowed the Marlow’s story off the platter in the show itself.
FREDDIE: There is a distinct lack of myself and Dr. Frederick Chilton in the promos!
BRYAN: You will be seeing both Freds – Freddie and Frederick Chilton – in the series. I love Raúl and I love love love Lara Jean and I wish we could do more with both of those characters, they’re absolutely in the season and they have a lot of fun things to do, but the story is always focused on Will and Hannibal and their relationship and that’s the core concept of the season and the series.
FREDDIE: It IS called “Hannibal” after all.
BRYAN: It is called Hannibal! But I frequently think that it would be so hilarious to spin off these characters – see Freddie Lounds in her life at Tattle Crime, see Dr. Chilton and all of his scheming- yet he’s so likable. That’s the thing I like about Raúl’s performances, Chilton started off as such a… a douchebag.
F and B: *both laughing*
BRYAN: For lack of a better derogatory statement, but I think Raúl plays him very smart and savvy and yet flawed. Raúl’s so likable that Chilton has become one of my favorite characters to write for.
FREDDIE: In season three we’re really going back to the roots of Hannibal’s story, we get to see Chiyo – I’m very excited for Tao Okamoto.
BRYAN: She’s REALLY cool in the role, and what a neat lady.
FREDDIE: Did we really see a kiss between Chiyo and Will?
BRYAN: Oh yeah.
FREDDIE: Oh goodness. Well that’s confirms that! But with going to those roots, how essential is Mischa to Lecter’s story and development as a character, is the element of Hannibal cannibalizing Mischa being included?
BRYAN: Yes, yes. Mischa is that thing that will forever haunt Hannibal for reasons that we will better understand this season, but it’s also seeing how he has, at various stages of his life, sought out a Mischa surrogate, whether it’s in Miriam Lass or Abigail Hobbs or Chiyo, there’s always been this attraction and fostering instinct for young, strong, interesting women in his life and that is all formed by his relationship with Mischa. I think we better understand that this season and we provide an emotional context to that, that Hannibal is a character who allows himself personal connections, and they are meaningful, so him looking to replay the Mischa dynamic in various ways is part of what haunts him.
FREDDIE: That’s fantastic. I read the article in SciFi Now where Mads talks about Mischa is a part of it but she isn’t the reason he does what he does, and that goes back to what, for me at least, is the most important aspect of Hannibal Lecter – “Nothing happened, I happened.”
BRYAN: Exactly.
FREDDIE: I love that, that’s being honored and is something you all have in mind.
FREDDIE: Talk to me about Margot’s upcoming love scene. How challenging was it to bring a lesbian sex scene to network TV?
BRYAN: Not at all!
F: Ooooh!!!
BRYAN: We actually got a note from standards and practices, after we submitted the episode, on behalf of Jameson who’s our standards and practices executive, that said essentially on behalf of the Standards and Practices team at NBC, we applaud you for this sex scene being so incredibly beautiful, sexual and sensual and also within the parameters of broadcast, and the only notes were like “Darken sideboob”, and I think we see a nipple in that one shot, but there were only two points in the love scene that they commented on, and it was really about giving a little more shadow to cover sideboob and remove the nipple. Never have I had a standards and practices executive and department be so willing to work with us creatively to get as much as we can on the show for adult content. NBC has been spectacular.
FREDDIE: That’s fantastic to hear. How important IS the romantic aspect of the show?
BRYAN: Hannibal IS a romance, this is a romantic horror story, and even though it’s not a sexual relationship, Hannibal and Will Graham are having a romance, and I always feel that romance has been integral to the DNA of the series since the inception. There’s been an influx of romantic story lines in this season , particularly with Francis Dolarhyde and Reba McClane, which we get to see sexually and sensually and psychologically, and what these two people mean to each other, and their sex scene is beautiful and healthy (given the circumstances) and celebratory of two people divided coming together in a unique connection that makes you feel for both of those people, it is a celebration of what sex is supposed to be, which is a merging of two into one, or however many, if you’re a three, but it’s about connection and it’s about intimacy and the visual side of the storytelling really enhances that.
And then we see a more domesticated relationship between Will and Molly, and the thing that I love about their dynamic, particularly in working with Nina Arianda, who brings such a natural, grounded quality to the character, is that we see in the scenes between them why Will is so drawn to her – because she makes him laugh. We see Will Graham laughing and giggling because this woman brings him that light, and we invest in that relationship because we see Will Graham in a way we’ve never seen him before, we see him with a wedding band on his hand and smiling and laughing and chuckling, it’s all so sweet and sad.
FREDDIE: Will Graham doesn’t smile, he’s a psychopath!
BRYAN: *Laughing.* Right? Well, not with Molly.
FREDDIE: On a scale of one to ten, how horrifying is the wheelchair scene?
BRYAN: It’s not so much the wheelchair scene but the things that happen while in the wheelchair.
FREDDIE: …Like …the lips?
BRYAN: Ahha… that’s the one….
FREDDIE: *grimaces* All right, all right, last but not least… How is he choosing them?
BRYAN: *whispers something into Freddie’s ear and then puts a finger to his lips*
There you have it, Tattlers! A HUGE thank you to Bryan Fuller for taking time out for me and my readers, and I hope this made you hungrier for Season 3!