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Minou hat geschrieben:
Da hätte ich aber gerne die Auflösung sogleich, damit ich meinen spärlichen Horizont in Sachen Mittelalter erweitern kann :roll:
Ich fürchte, ich werde das Audiobook kaufen müssen...

Ich auch, unter anderem, weil der Preis wohl nicht im deutschen Audible Store gilt.

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:( Schade, dass wir uns am Wettbewerb nicht beteiligen können. Die beiden ersten Aufgaben könnte ich lösen :schlaumeier: :besser: .
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Was enorme Vorteile hat, um die Kunst und Kultur des christlichen Abendlandes zu verstehen (bis hin zu modernen 'Romeo und Julia'-Adaptionen'), weshalb ich eine Lanze dafür breche, derlei positiv als Wissensvorsprung (Allgemeinwissen ist es ja leider nicht mehr :sigh2: ) zu bewerten und sich bitte nicht gequält dafür zu entschuldigen. :kuss: Und der Bilderzyklus, um den es hier geht, ist gerade ganz groß in Mode (wie Text-Bild-Beziehungen in der gegenwärtigen Forschung allgemein) - auch und gerade in der Comic-Forschung. :lol:

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Ich würde meinen, dass das Identifikationspotenzial zwischen Ursula und Julia (Frage c) in der Überwindung von Feindschaft (einmal zwischen Religionen, dann zwischen veronesischen Familien) durch die Liebe liegt.

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:Danke: Danke Laudine für die netten Worte zur Bildung.
Ich bin von meinem letzten Kurs in Pflege- und Medizingeschichte noch ein wenig traumatisiert. Da arbeite ich gerne mit historischen Kunstwerken und Abbildungen. Leider ist das Interesse an diesen Inhalten bei meinen Auszubildenden nicht besonders groß :( :sigh2:


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Ich hatte zum Glück im vergangenen Semester ein umgekehrtes Erlebnis, da kam die Sitzung zur Legendendichtung (verknüpft mit der Frage der Zeiteinteilung und Zeitmessung im Mittelalter) besonders gut an. Manchmal geschehen noch Zeichen und Wunder. ;) :lol: Ansonsten bemerkt man, wenn man ein wenig herum kommt, wie unterschiedlich und regional geprägt dieses Vorwissen inzwischen so ist. :(

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Das freut mich für dich :daumen: . Wenn es gelingt ein Thema so aufzubereiten, dass die Schüler/ Studenten echtes Interesse daran entwickeln und gut mitarbeiten, ist das doch die beste Bestätigung für unsere Arbeit. Die regionale Unterschiedlichkeit habe ich auch schon beobachtet. Mein Auszubildenden-Klientel hat immer mehr die Tendenz in Richtung UatSc. Kein Wunder, wenn Kinder und Jugendliche nicht mehr im Fokus der Gesellschaft stehen. Das ist hier im Ruhrgebiet leider immer stärker der Fall.
Um zum Thread-Titel zurück zu kommen: Für Romeo and Juliet werde ich keine neue Fans gewinnen können. Ich bediene mich mal schnell beim Dinner for one: "I'll do my very best Miss Sophie". Und ansonsten genieße ich es eben alleine und mit diesem Super-Board :grouphug:


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Und weiter geht es mit Teil 2:

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Win Richard Armitage narrating Romeo and Juliet for @audible_com: Part Two http://davidhewson.com/the-romeo-and-ju ... -part-two/


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The Romeo and Juliet quest: Part Two

Sep 3, 2016 | Audio, Romeo and Juliet

Now for the second instalment in our competition to win one of five copies of the forthcoming Romeo and Juliet narrated by Richard Armitage, written by me, published by Audible. If you need to get up to speed on what this is all about please read the first post here. Remember. Don’t try to send your answers now. Keep them safe until the competition ends which will now be on November 20. We’ll tell you how to dispatch them to our judges.

It seems we were being a bit too generous when it came to the toughness of last week’s questions. There were a few subtle little hints to that effect on Twitter like this…

@david_hewson No, no, no, don´t do this… was soooooo difficult Ssshhh everyone, don´t encourage him…

— Andrea Koenigsmann (@AKoenigsmann) August 27, 2016


Well… (rubs hands with glee)… message received, loud and clear! Here we go.

When we first meet Romeo he is doing what he does in Shakespeare, wandering along the woody banks of the Adige. Today, after some much-needed flood defence work, they look like this.

We see a head-in-the-air young man obsessed with two things: unrequited love for Rosaline and poetry, mostly romantic. The first is doomed and soon won’t matter much anyway. The second, though, is an important part of Romeo’s character. He really does dream of finding sense in the world through verse. In the play his very odd and frankly at times impenetrable language at the beginning betrays this fixation. In a way this is understandable. For the privileged few who could read, poetry was a very popular pastime, just as the paintings we discussed last week provided a kind of visual equivalent of movies or drama. Romeo’s airy intellectualism also offers a neat contrast with Juliet who is, in my view (and therefore in this adaptation), more down-to-earth, practical and, well, smarter.

There’s a hint of this in Shakespeare’s balcony scene, Act 2, Scene 2, when Romeo, still talking in his flowery fashion, blurts out…

Lady, by yonder blessèd moon I vow,
That tips with silver all these fruit-tree tops—

Juliet, sensible girl that she is, interrupts him…

O, swear not by the moon, th’ inconstant moon,
That monthly changes in her circle orb,
Lest that thy love prove likewise variable.

If you’re going to make a vow of your eternal love what kind of twit would do it on something that waxes and wanes nightly?

But Romeo has poetry in his heart, with good reason since Verona has history in the field. Dante was exiled there for a while. Romeo’s also very conversant with another fashionable Italian poet, Petrarch. There’s one other writer of love verse he adores too. Long dead, he came from Verona, had quite a reputation and was known as a ‘neoteric’. Though Juliet’s mother won’t allow his stuff in the house. So…

a) Who is the ancient poet, born in Verona, that Romeo loves?

b) Why might Juliet’s mother ban her from reading his work?

c) Dante, Petrarch and our unnamed Verona poet all wrote verses devoted to their individual muses, a woman they adored. Can you name the three muses each addressed in their work? It’s the name used in the poems we want, not, in the case of Petrarch and our ancient Roman, any guesses people might have had about their true identity.


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For Saturday's #RomeoandJuliet questions we'll be leaving Verona to visit the place where you'll find this


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Der dritte Teil ist recht kurz:

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Sep 10, 2016 | Audio, Romeo and Juliet
The Romeo and Juliet quest: Part Three

Here’s the third instalment in our competition to win one of five copies of the forthcoming Romeo and Juliet narrated by Richard Armitage, written by me, published by Audible. If you need to get up to speed on what this is all about please read the first post here. Remember. Don’t try to send your answers now. Keep them safe until the competition ends on November 20 and then we’ll tell you how to dispatch them to our judges.

Shakespeare depicts Romeo fleeing Verona to Mantua, pictured above, when he’s expelled from the city after killing Tybalt. And that’s about it. A play’s drama and a sense of place often isn’t particularly important. But for this adaptation it is which is why I spent some time in Italy before writing a word. Verona’s a well-known tourist destination, of course, but Mantua, an hour or so south by train, is equally interesting if a touch unloved in parts. In the story to come Romeo will pass a brief but interesting time in this historic spot — and encounter the very formidable lady who, in real life, ruled the roost there.

She was a true woman of the Renaissance, friend to artists and philosophers, a stateswoman, designer of her own clothes, and more than a touch eccentric. She also had a troublesome husband who spent much of his time away, leaving the running of the city to her. Some of her descendants are still big in European society today. In fact one is sixth in line to the throne of Belgium.

a) Who was she?

b) Which notorious sister-in-law did she fall out with badly and why?

c) Which famous Venetian artist had to produce a new and more flattering portrait of her decades younger after getting into hot water because his original was too true to life?


http://davidhewson.com/the-romeo-and-juliet-quest-part-three/

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The Romeo and Juliet quest: Part Three @audible_com http://davidhewson.com/the-romeo-and-ju ... art-three/


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Wieder eine Vorankündigung:

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Advance notice. Next Saturday's #RomeoandJuliet questions will take you here


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The Romeo and Juliet quest: Part Four @audible_com http://davidhewson.com/the-romeo-and-ju ... part-four/


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The Romeo and Juliet quest: Part Four

Sep 17, 2016 | Audio, Romeo and Juliet

Here’s the fourth part of our competition to win one of five copies of the forthcoming Romeo and Juliet narrated by Richard Armitage, written by me, published by Audible. If you need to get up to speed on what this is all about please read the first post here. Remember. Don’t try to send your answers now. Keep them safe until the competition ends on November 20 and then we’ll tell you how to dispatch them to our judges.

Count Paris — shouldn’t it be Count Parigi? — is Juliet’s unwanted suitor. He’s older — she’s just thirteen in Shakespeare (ridiculous), sixteen in this adaptation — and clearly a class above the merchant family of the Capulets. Juliet’s father wants her married off, then, as much for social and business reasons as anything else — which would have been pretty normal for the time. Paris ticks all the boxes.

One of the challenges you face when adapting drama to audiobook is back story. On stage it doesn’t matter much where Paris comes from. We know he’s posh, we know he’s older, we know he seems fixated on marrying Juliet, and that’s about it. I wanted this Paris to be much more rounded, and to have a background that reflects the period of the play.

So now he comes from Florence, a rich, ambitious city that has just been through the throes of revolution. The Medici family who effectively ruled it have been ejected by a fundamentalist preacher much hated by the Vatican. He, in turn, has been burned at the stake as a heretic and a republican government is now trying to run the city (not very well since the Medici will soon be back).

Paris may be very rich and powerful but his native city is a place that’s chaotic and riven by rivalries that make the hatred between Capulet and Montague seem small beer. What better way to find some stability than to acquire a beautiful young wife elsewhere who will give you the sons to continue the dynasty? Even if she doesn’t want to know? I mean… this is 1499. What business is it of hers?

Nor is Paris above profiting from that chaos either. He tells Capulet that he’s recently had a portrait of himself painted for a pittance by an artist who was once beloved of the Medici but later fell in with the religious zealots, burning most of his precious works in a bonfire of the vanities. The painter has now fallen into poverty and still weeps over the death of his muse, a famous beauty who was the model in two of his best-known canvases, The Birth of Venus and Primavera.

The questions…

a) What was the name of the fiery priest who briefly ruled Florence?

b) Can you name the artist and his muse? Since this is far too easy can you also name the muse’s cousin-in-law who ended up having a country named after him? And the country?

c) What was the artist’s most fervent wish concerning his death — and was it granted?


http://davidhewson.com/the-romeo-and-juliet-quest-part-four/

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The Romeo and Juliet quest: Part Five
Now for the fifth instalment in our competition to win one of five copies of the forthcoming Romeo and Juliet narrated by Richard Armitage. If you need to get up to speed on what this is all about please read the first post here. Remember. Don’t try to send us the answers now. Save them until November 20 when we’ll tell you how.
In Shakespeare the play begins in a location described as ‘Verona. A public place’. I don’t think he knew Verona. I don’t believe he ever went to Italy. What he learned he learned through books — a lot of them. But this lovely city is made for storytelling, so in this adaptation it’s very much where the action takes place. Mostly I do this by inserting locations that were never in the play or Shakespeare’s sources to begin with. On occasion though I take the hints he’s dropped and apply them to a real location.
In the case of the opening scene it’s easy to pinpoint where it would have to be. There’s a market, so it must be the most important public piazza in the city, the square today called the Piazza delle Erbe, or usually, to the locals, just the Piazza Erbe.

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As you’ll discover in December this is where some of the key scenes take place, with Richard Armitage using his fantastic array of voices on everyone from Romeo to Mercutio and a hilariously bombastic Nurse. I’ll leave you to spot the unexpected source of her accent, though I will say I think she deserves a TV show of her own.
The photo above is what the piazza looked like during that chilly time in February when I was there developing the story. The shape may give you a clue to the answer to the first question below. As always in Italy, though, you need to look beyond the obvious and explore the fine detail, because that’s where the little touches lie that can bring a visit — or a drama — to life.


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Benvolio and Mercutio, the morning after the ball, meet up in this location, the Arco della Costa, one of the piazza exits. Mercutio with a stinking hangover as one might expect. Above them stands a curious white object spanning the arch. Legend used to say it was a bone from an extinct monster. In truth it’s a very old whale rib. But there’s a local story connected to it too.
So what we’d like to know is…
a) What purpose did the Piazza Erbe serve in imperial Roman times?
b) What’s supposed to happen if someone who tells lies walks through this arch?
c) What very striking emblem in the piazza tells you Verona once belonged to Venice?

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Danke, Arianna. :kuss: Irgendwie ist man gerade so beschäftigt, dass dieses Hörbuch (und das Preisrätsel) ziemlich in den Hintergrund tritt. :lol:

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Vor lauter #LLLPlay haben wir hier ein bißchen den Anschluss verloren:

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meo and Juliet quest: Part Six

Oct 1, 2016 | Audio, Romeo and Juliet
The Romeo and Juliet quest: Part Six

We’re now halfway through our competition to win one of five copies of the forthcoming Romeo and Juliet narrated by Richard Armitage. If you need to get up to speed on what this is all about please read the first post here. This should be easy-peasy. Don’t try to send us the answers now. Save them until November 26 when we’ll tell you how. And don’t panic if you still haven’t got all the answers. The final question will be on November 20 so you’ll have almost a week to catch up.

Here are four portraits of famous personages you’ll find one way or another in the forthcoming story. Simple question. Who are they?

a) Something princely about him even if he was a commoner.

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b) This chap was supposed to be saintly but failed that test on many counts. He also went by two names. We’d like both.

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c) Brilliant, bonkers or bad boy, this fellow came to a hot and sticky end in Florence.

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d) This noble lady from Mantua was sketched here by an artist she knew personally. One Leonardo da Vinci.
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Oct 8, 2016 | Audio, Romeo and Juliet
The Romeo and Juliet quest: Part Seven

We’re closing in on our competition to win one of five copies of the forthcoming Romeo and Juliet narrated by Richard Armitage. If you need to get up to speed on what this is all about please read the first post here. Don’t try to send us the answers now. Save them until November 19 when we’ll tell you how.

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This one should be easy-peasy. Richard kind of gave a bit of the game away back in July on Twitter…

.@audiblecom on a lighter note Trebbiano V Garganega? pic.twitter.com/A1RFHs7o6Z

— Richard Armitage (@RCArmitage) July 16, 2016


His ever-vigilant fans were on this like a shot and rapidly connected Verona to his tweet. Two and two were swiftly put together and very soon I found myself inundated with people wanting to know if a Romeo adaptation was on the cards.

Let’s go back to that tweet and Audible’s response to it…

@RCArmitage hmmm… that’s a tough one. Perhaps a blend / might put an end / to this bitter feud of men?

— Audible (@audiblecom) July 18, 2016

In Shakespeare and the sources he used we know that Capulet and Montague are two Veronese houses at loggerheads with one another. But we don’t have a clue why. Feuds were scarcely uncommon at the time, in Italy or England. In an extended audiobook version, though, I felt we needed to understand a bit more about what began the vendetta.

You will have to wait until December 6 to find out the answer. But as the two tweets above hint, it’s connected to two important grapes used in Verona’s very busy wine industry, Garganega and Trebbiano. Not household names but if you’re a wine drinker I bet you’ve supped both of them over the years.


Two questions.

a) One of the best Garganega wines from the Verona region is a dry and often straw-coloured white named after a small comune of fewer than seven thousand inhabitants to the east, now famous worldwide. What’s it called?

b) When Friar Laurence has married Romeo and Juliet in this version he proposes a toast from a bottle of his own, a wine you might expect a priest to have at hand. Here are a few lines from the script…


It was the oldest, most precious vintage he had… from Tuscany, made from a harvest dried on hurdles set above the ground then fermented slowly and stored. Ten years old this was. Sweet as honey and much the same colour.

‘The grape’s Malvasia,’ he pointed out.


What wine — Tuscan, a dessert one — was Laurence offering them?


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d) This noble lady from Mantua was sketched here by an artist she knew personally. One Leonardo da Vinci.

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Ich hatte gleich die Vermutung, dass dieses Bild der Mona Lisa ähnelt, und tatsächlich ist eine Theorie, dass Isabella d’Este die Mona Lisa ist.

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